Sunday, 15 January 2012

Creationists in their own words . . .

Dr GS Hurd occasionally enlightens our forum and recently provided a little treasure trove of words out of the mouths of creationists.

Phil Johnson

"I also don't think that there is really a theory of intelligent design at the present time to propose as a comparable alternative to the Darwinian theory, which is, whatever errors it might contain, a fully worked out scheme. There is no intelligent design theory that's comparable. Working out a positive theory is the job of the scientific people that we have affiliated with the movement. Some of them are quite convinced that it's doable, but that's for them to prove...No product is ready for competition in the educational world." Berkley Science Review (Spring 2006).

Michael Behe

“Our intelligence depends critically on physical structures in the brain which are irreducibly complex. Extrapolating from this sample of one, it may be that all possible natural designers require irreducibly complex structures which themselves were designed. If so, then at some point a supernatural designer must get into the picture. I myself find this line of reasoning persuasive. In my estimation, although possible in a broadly permissive sense, it is not plausible that the original intelligent agent is a natural entity. … Thus, in my judgment it is implausible that the designer is a natural entity." “Reply to My Critics” Biology and Philosophy 16: 685–709, 2001.

William Dembski

In a 1999 article for the Christian magazine Touchstone “Signs of Intelligence,” Dembski confirmed the foundation of ID in John 1 when he assured readers that "Indeed, intelligent design is just the Logos theology of John’s Gospel restated in the idiom of information theory." (“Signs of Intelligence,” 1999, Touchstone magazine).

Dembski gave a talk at the Baptist Fellowship Church in Waco, TX (March 7, 2004), that was taped recorded. Relevant to the current topic, Dembski, in response to an audience member's question said, “When you are attributing the wonders of nature to these mindless material mechanisms, God’s glory is getting robbed.” He further added, “And so there is a cultural war here. Ultimately I want to see God get the credit for what he’s done — and he’s not getting it.”

"My thesis is that all disciplines find their completion in Christ and cannot be properly understood apart from Christ." William Dembski, 'Intelligent Design', p 206, Intelligent Design: The Bridge Between Science and Religion (1999 Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press).

Thanks Gary.

1 comment:

  1. What is the link between Science Education and "Fighting against Creationism"? Methinks that a line has been crossed here. Personal crusades have no place in science.